Comments on: No 1 Beef Noodle House at Willingdon and Moscorp http://chowtimes.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/ Suanne and Ben's Food and Travel Adventures from Vancouver, BC Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:45:22 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Doug http://chowtimes.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/comment-page-1/#comment-41272 Doug Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:46:22 +0000 http://chowtimes.26miler.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/#comment-41272 "I don’t think in this case would gain anything from intentionally ruining any business by way of planting anything just to get “evidence” of code violations" What I mean is that a restaurant with no violation, a news reporter can plant bugs or whatever misconduct for a story. That is what I'm worried about because they are focusing on the restaurant industry, right now. Cough HST... the timing of it.... Anyways, I've seen desperate people do desperate things for attention, either for a story or anything. I've seen customers pull there own hair and put it on there food for free items. Thus, reporter "PLANT" bugs or whatever to make a story. “I don’t think in this case would gain anything from intentionally ruining any business by way of planting anything just to get “evidence” of code violations”

What I mean is that a restaurant with no violation, a news reporter can plant bugs or whatever misconduct for a story. That is what I’m worried about because they are focusing on the restaurant industry, right now. Cough HST… the timing of it…. Anyways, I’ve seen desperate people do desperate things for attention, either for a story or anything. I’ve seen customers pull there own hair and put it on there food for free items. Thus, reporter “PLANT” bugs or whatever to make a story.

]]> By: LotusRapper http://chowtimes.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/comment-page-1/#comment-41263 LotusRapper Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:47:55 +0000 http://chowtimes.26miler.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/#comment-41263 Doug, Public health inspectors (and the public health regions) are there to ensure restaurant proprietors adhere to standardized health and food safety codes as part of their day-to-day business conduct. As you've wisely noted, it's for the right reasons. The media, while can be "sensationalistic" at times, I don't think in this case would gain anything from intentionally ruining any business by way of planting anything just to get "evidence" of code violations (which have *already* been committed by the restaurants they interview). If a violating business' reputation is significantly damaged and its viability is diminished as a result of media coverage, I don't think they should be entitled to sue for damages if there is already evidence of repeated code violations, and conducts that endanger public health. Doug,

Public health inspectors (and the public health regions) are there to ensure restaurant proprietors adhere to standardized health and food safety codes as part of their day-to-day business conduct. As you’ve wisely noted, it’s for the right reasons.

The media, while can be “sensationalistic” at times, I don’t think in this case would gain anything from intentionally ruining any business by way of planting anything just to get “evidence” of code violations (which have *already* been committed by the restaurants they interview).

If a violating business’ reputation is significantly damaged and its viability is diminished as a result of media coverage, I don’t think they should be entitled to sue for damages if there is already evidence of repeated code violations, and conducts that endanger public health.

]]> By: Marike http://chowtimes.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/comment-page-1/#comment-41260 Marike Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:46:05 +0000 http://chowtimes.26miler.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/#comment-41260 I have a different perpective as I personally know a health inspector. The last high rating was March 31st, 2009. Even when they were inspected again in June and October the public health inspector found many repeat code violations. To be cited this many code violations is not something to be taken lightly. Many of these items can be easily prevented if the operators have good procedures in place for staff to follow. Of course this has to be enforced by management. Their recent record tells me that the owners/managers don't care about food safety or the health impacts on customers. The cycle is clear: inspector comes in, they fix the problems, then relapse back to old bad habits until the next inspection. I wouldn't risk my health to eat here. I have a different perpective as I personally know a health inspector.

The last high rating was March 31st, 2009.

Even when they were inspected again in June and October the public health inspector found many repeat code violations.

To be cited this many code violations is not something to be taken lightly. Many of these items can be easily prevented if the operators have good procedures in place for staff to follow. Of course this has to be enforced by management. Their recent record tells me that the owners/managers don’t care about food safety or the health impacts on customers.

The cycle is clear: inspector comes in, they fix the problems, then relapse back to old bad habits until the next inspection.

I wouldn’t risk my health to eat here.

]]> By: Ben http://chowtimes.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/comment-page-1/#comment-41257 Ben Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:20:49 +0000 http://chowtimes.26miler.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/#comment-41257 Thanks Doug. To put things into perspective, of the six reported failures, the last one was reported about 11 months ago. Everyone, please also review this link: http://www.healthspace.ca/Clients/FHA/FHA_Website.nsf/Food-FacilityHistory?OpenView&RestrictToCategory=53213FFF4D063087882570D8000172AF Thanks Doug. To put things into perspective, of the six reported failures, the last one was reported about 11 months ago.
Everyone, please also review this link: http://www.healthspace.ca/Clients/FHA/FHA_Website.nsf/Food-FacilityHistory?OpenView&RestrictToCategory=53213FFF4D063087882570D8000172AF

]]> By: Doug http://chowtimes.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/comment-page-1/#comment-41256 Doug Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:13:13 +0000 http://chowtimes.26miler.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/#comment-41256 I'm pretty shock that CTV posted there names and did an interview with one of there employee. The employee clearly said there is rats in the restaurant and he was nervous. Do they realize that CTV just ruin there reputation forever? I've watch news everyday and this is the first time they actually run a story and is trying to ruin there business! Make you think that any time someone wants to destroy your company, although, its for the right reasons but you'll never know when or where they would do it! I'm still shock because they'll come to my restaurant and pretend to be a customer and might intentionally put a dead fly in the food and blame it on us and tape it, you just never know who watching or writing about you. I'm just curious can these restaurants sue them for damaging there restaurant? or did they know they were going to be in the story? I’m pretty shock that CTV posted there names and did an interview with one of there employee. The employee clearly said there is rats in the restaurant and he was nervous. Do they realize that CTV just ruin there reputation forever? I’ve watch news everyday and this is the first time they actually run a story and is trying to ruin there business! Make you think that any time someone wants to destroy your company, although, its for the right reasons but you’ll never know when or where they would do it! I’m still shock because they’ll come to my restaurant and pretend to be a customer and might intentionally put a dead fly in the food and blame it on us and tape it, you just never know who watching or writing about you. I’m just curious can these restaurants sue them for damaging there restaurant? or did they know they were going to be in the story?

]]> By: LotusRapper http://chowtimes.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/comment-page-1/#comment-41236 LotusRapper Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:51:51 +0000 http://chowtimes.26miler.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/#comment-41236 My bad ! You are right, Ben. Burnaby is part of Fraser Health. I tried Au Wing Kee because it was mentioned in the CTV story, thinking they meant the one on Kingsway & Royal Oak, and I didn't notice the "2568 Kingsway" address as I forgot they have another Vancouver outlet. My bad ! You are right, Ben. Burnaby is part of Fraser Health.

I tried Au Wing Kee because it was mentioned in the CTV story, thinking they meant the one on Kingsway & Royal Oak, and I didn’t notice the “2568 Kingsway” address as I forgot they have another Vancouver outlet.

]]> By: LotusRapper http://chowtimes.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/comment-page-1/#comment-41235 LotusRapper Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:47:37 +0000 http://chowtimes.26miler.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/#comment-41235 Try: http://www.foodinspectionweb.vcha.ca/Facility?report-type=ffffffff-ffff-ffff-ffff-fffffffffff1&area=&sort-by=Name&alpha=&search-term=au+wing+kee&submit-search=Search Try:

http://www.foodinspectionweb.vcha.ca/Facility?report-type=ffffffff-ffff-ffff-ffff-fffffffffff1&area=&sort-by=Name&alpha=&search-term=au+wing+kee&submit-search=Search

]]> By: LotusRapper http://chowtimes.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/comment-page-1/#comment-41234 LotusRapper Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:47:11 +0000 http://chowtimes.26miler.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/#comment-41234 It does, Ben. Say you're curious about Au Wing Kee (from the CTV news story) .... type in "Au Wing Kee" and you'll see the link. It does, Ben. Say you’re curious about Au Wing Kee (from the CTV news story) …. type in “Au Wing Kee” and you’ll see the link.

]]> By: Ben http://chowtimes.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/comment-page-1/#comment-41233 Ben Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:46:01 +0000 http://chowtimes.26miler.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/#comment-41233 Got it ... it's here: http://www.healthspace.ca/Clients/FHA/FHA_Website.nsf/Env-Frameset Got it … it’s here: http://www.healthspace.ca/Clients/FHA/FHA_Website.nsf/Env-Frameset

]]> By: Ben http://chowtimes.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/comment-page-1/#comment-41232 Ben Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:43:41 +0000 http://chowtimes.26miler.com/2006/04/29/no-1-beef-noodle-house-at-willingdon-and-moscorp/#comment-41232 That site doesn't show restaurants in Burnaby. I could not find another site that does. Anyone knows? That site doesn’t show restaurants in Burnaby. I could not find another site that does. Anyone knows?

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